Tuesday, July 12, 2011

GAME THIS SUNDAY

There’s another big game coming up this Sunday in Markham as the Toronto Scottish Old boys take on the Gray Hares.   Were all invited, in fact encouraged to come out and take part what looks like to be a good game.  Kickoff is 1pm, you don’t want to miss this.  See you in Markham, Da Thug.

 

From: Jason Importance: High

 

Gents if you could possibly forward this on to your Members.
This is an open invite to you all to join the game against the Scottish Old boys this Sunday

Cheers

Jason


Gents,
We have a big game at home this Sunday:

Toronto Scottish Old Boys V Grey Hares/Paws 13:00 Kickoff at Markham

For those of you who played against them at the Beach 2 weeks you can all attest we had a fantastic game against them.

Here is a great opportunity to promote old boys Rugby and show the Scottish that old boys Rugby is alive and well.
Hopefully we can convince them to put out an old boys team on a more regular basis.

Lets rally round and put out a good strong team together this weekend and play a great game of Rugby against some new faces.

Cheers

Jason

Markham Grey Hares Rugby

Sunday, July 10, 2011

Car Pooling for Brampton

Hi All,
For those heading to Brampton today, we are car pooling from the Burlington clubhouse leaving at 11:45.
Hope to see you out for another great day.
Cheers
Chris

Friday, July 8, 2011

RE: Rugby Canada looks for feedback about rugby development

Some interesting thoughts Joe.   We at the NOBs  took issue with Rugby Canada re the insurance program which I still feel out of line particularly for Old Boys and mini non contact rugby especially bearing in mind the $50,000  deductible.  The home insurance of  an old boy or the parent of a mini provides better individual protection than the Rugby Canada coverage. And everyone with personal home coverage should be aware that if they ( or a youngster living at home) is named in a lawsuit then the Rugby Canada insurers will insist that you’re coverage is brought in to the action under the contribution clause that is part of  all Liability policies.

    I also agree with your comments re Rugby Canada’s mandate being only the National team.    I wish Canada all the best in the World Cup but in my opinion amateurs playing professionals makes a mockery of the sport and professional rugby in Canada is not on the cards in the foreseeable future.  I don’t believe the general Canadian public is prepared to pay to watch the game in Canada.   I believe support for grass roots rugby is more important and in the long run will be better for the game in this country.  

   To compete in the World Cup we need at least 35 to 40 players playing professionally in Europe or the Southern Hemisphere.  The IRB  might also consider a two tier cup, one for Pros and one for Amateurs.

   With  the 7s game now being part of the Olympics it would seem that Rugby Canada would be much better rewarded concentrating on the annual 7s World Cup which is a more level playing field,  a more entertaining game for  “non-rugby”  spectators and will almost certainly  obtain better funding opportunities from Govt. sources.

 

       Jack Morrison.     Nobs Rugby

 


From: Joe Ventresca [mailto:joeventresca@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 5:46 PM
To: general@nobsrfc.com; S & J Morrison
Subject: Fw: Rugby Canada looks for feedback about rugby development

 

 

 

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Subject: Rugby Canada looks for feedback about rugby development

To Rugby Canada,
I recently read the article on your web site titled "Fixing Canadian Soccer - A call to action" and you asked for the readers opinions about how it could relate to Rugby in our country. A few thoughts came to mind, in March of 2010 I watched the Rugby Canada AGM on line and was disappointed to hear that Rugby Canada would only look after the tip of the pyramid. I do understand that the National age grade and senior teams are your priorities but, I look to USA rugby and am amazed that they are not only looking after the tip of the pyramid but, setting the course for the bottom of it as well. Their progressive packaging of youth rugby has been fantastic. Their "Rookie Rugby" program sets out a clear pathway for rugby players from 4 to 14 years old. Also, they have produced on line coaching resources and certification for rookie rugby. There are clear instructions on how to develop a youth rugby program and what procedures you must follow. They have even merchandised their youth rugby program with t-shirts, stickers and birthday cards. These items make youth rugby more organized and professional looking to parents and kids, something we don't always see in Canada. As well, USA rugby has office staff who are dedicated to developing youth rugby and can offer further guidance to a club, parent, player or community organization. If Rugby Canada could take the lead and develop a support system for youth rugby that would be amazing.
 
Building the base is the next item that comes to mind. I have been pleased that you have begun to lower the costs for minor rugby players in Canada. In Ontario, with the combined provincial and national dues minor rugby players must pay to those groups are $45.00. Not bad. USA rugby has the youth rate at $5.00, but that does not include any insurance. If we could get the $45.00 rate down to $25.00 that will help attract more players to the game. Even if the club added field rentals and a soccer style uniform to the mix that would bring it to about
$65. The lower the cost, the more kids we attract. Also the Rugby Canada and Ontario fees for coaches $133 and Board member $88 is too much. This cost downloaded on a developing minor rugby club can be crippling. I know, it happened to my youth rugby club so we left Rugby Canada and got our own insurance. Much cheaper and our numbers grew from 10 players to 130 players in one year.
 
In the article it talked about too much of an emphasis placed on winning and not on skills. I agree and feel this is also in rugby as well. In Niagara Flag Rugby's league we don't keep score or hand out trophies. We play for fun and try to teach the kids the skills and ethos of rugby. Our players love the relaxed atmosphere and the camaraderie that this approach takes.
 
Canadian rugby unions and clubs should rethink how they operate minor rugby. Instead of club centric perhaps they should be encouraged to look at the RFU or Morristown Rugby club models. Have a central board of directors that organizes the local league and then places coaches in the selected geographic areas. Take the responsibility away from existing rugby clubs and create youth rugby regional programs. Morris County in the USA does this and now has over 1000 children participating, Niagara Flag Rugby does this as well. This frame work takes the burden off of the volunteers at  the adult rugby club and creates a new level of volunteer that will become part of the rugby culture and that is the parent. I found that I have more sponsors using a regional approach and more volunteer coaches, board members and managers then I ever did with one financially burdened club associated with Rugby Canada.
 
I hope these ideas help. I believe that if Rugby Canada does not set out a direction for the base and take the lead then not only will the rest of the world pass the senior men's team by but so will USA Rugby and very soon.
 
 I also CC'd in some of my fellow flag rugby coaches and volunteers so they could also comment.

Caleb Smith
President
Niagara Flag Rugby

 

FW: [LTRugby] FINAL 30 MAN SQUAD NAMED FOR RWC

CANADA”S   WORLD CUP SQUAD.   {Note 3 Oakville Crusaders included}

 


From: barb&bob gibbons [mailto:pickledpair@shaw.ca]
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:38 PM
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Subject: FW: [LTRugby] FINAL 30 MAN SQUAD NAMED FOR RWC

 

 

 

 

Friday, July 8, 2011 - Submitted by By Tom Kennedy for Rugby Canada

Rugby Canada has taken another step on its road to the 2011 Rugby World Cup with the naming of its 30-man squad for the tournament.

The squad will be led by captain Pat Riordan, a veteran of the team with 37 caps over nine years, and vice-captain Ander Monro.

Head coach Kieran Crowley says the selections, made by himself and assistant coach Geraint John, were the result of ongoing evaluations and took into consideration individual skills and positional coverage.

“It's been an exhaustive process that we really started three years ago,” Crowley said. “We used everything at our disposal to get where we have and it's probably the first time since I've been here that we've been able to take Canada's best team.”

Positionally, Crowley has opted for 16 forwards and 14 backs. While all positions were considered in detail, Crowley said there was a lot of discussion around the loose forwards.

“There's a lot of things that come into it like form, versatility and contributions,” he said.

In the forward pack, Crowley has opted for five props, two hookers, three locks and six loose forwards.

The front row is made up mostly of members of the BC Bears and Prairie Wolf Pack, with props Hubert Buydens, Scott Franklin, Jason Marshall, Andrew Tiedemann and Frank Walsh.

“You always need two specialist tight-heads and someone who can cover both and Tiedemann can do that,” Crowley said.

Captain Riordan and Bears' hooker Ryan Hamilton make up the remainder of the front row, with Marshall also able to fill in at the Number 2 slot.

The second row sees 2011 Churchill Cup squad members Brian Erichsen, Tyler Hotson and Jamie Cudmore reunite, with the latter two bringing their professional experience from clubs Plymouth Albion and ASM Clermont Auvergne respectively.

Aaron Carpenter leads the back row in terms of caps, with 36, and is joined by Nanyak Dala, Adam Kleeberger, Jeremy Kyne, Chauncey O'Toole and Jebb Sinclair.

“One of the biggest factors in those selections is we need two Number 7s in any game and we have O'Toole, Kleeberger and Dala that can all play 7,” Crowley said. “The addition of Jeremy Kyne is from a skills and attributes perspective, we needed an explosive players and a good ball carrier and he fits that role.”

The back-line selections feature three scrum halfs, two fly halfs, four centres, three wings and two fullbacks.

Crowley has three specialist scrum halfs in veteran Ed Fairhurst, Esher's Jamie Mackenzie and Sean White.

At fly half, vice captain Monro is joined by Nathan Hirayama, who despite being 23 is going to his second World Cup.

In the centres, Ryan Smith leads in experience with 45 caps and is joined by the youthful injections of Conor Trainor, Phil Mackenzie and Mike Scholz.

The wing and fullback positions are covered by a versatile group of players in Canada's second-highest points scorer ever, James Pritchard, DTH van der Merwe, Ciaran Hearn, young-gun Taylor Paris and Matt Evans.

Crowley also considers Evans an option at fly half.

The Canadian squad features a combined total of 441 caps and seven professional players. The bulk of the squad plays its highest level in the Canadian Rugby Championship.

Of the CRC selections, the BC Bears feature heavily with nine players, while five Prairie Wolf Pack players were selected, along with four from The Rock of the Atlantic provinces and four Ontario Blues men.

The squad also features a wide age range with Walsh the oldest at 35 years old and Paris the youngest, who turns 19 on Sunday.

“A lot of these players will be available for the next World Cup,” Crowley said. “Youth brings excitement, but you've also got to have that experience in the squad. We're pretty happy with the balance we've found.”

The Canadian Rugby World Cup team will feature 30 players and 16 staff, including four support coaches in addition to Crowley. Canada has also named eight non-travelling standby players.

From a staff perspective, team manager Rodger Swany said he was excited to see all the work off the field coming together as the 46-strong group prepares to travel for competition on the world stage.

“It's been a journey for the last four years and we're getting to the pinnacle in our schedule,” Swany said. “Everyone has their roles within the team. The staff are familiar with each other and it's a good team we have. Just like the coaching staff and the players, it's important we get things right off the field.”

The Canadian team faces a busy schedule, with fundraising events and training camps scheduled for Whistler and Nottawasaga prior to North American test matches in Toronto and Denver in August. The team then departs for Queensland, Australia mid August for the final training camp and games against the Queensland Selects and Australian Barbarians before flying to New Zealand.

Canada faces Tonga, France, Japan and New Zealand in its 2011 Rugby World Cup pool.

Canadian 2011 Rugby World Cup squad
Forwards (Home town, top club, home club)

Hookers
Ryan Hamilton (Vancouver, BC, BC Bears/CRC, University of Victoria Vikes)
Pat Riordan (Burnaby, BC, BC Bears/CRC, Burnaby)

Props
Hubert Buydens (Saskatoon, SK, Prairie Wolf Pack/CRC)
Scott Franklin (Regina, SK, Prairie Wolf Pack/CRC, Castaway Wanderers)
Jason Marshall (Vancouver, BC, BC Bears/CRC, Capilano)
Andrew Tiedemann (St. Albert, AB, Prairie Wolf Pack/CRC, University of
Victoria Vikes)
Frank Walsh (St. John's, NL, The Rock/CRC, Vandals Rugby Club)

Second Row
Jamie Cudmore (Squamish, BC, ASM Clermont Auvergne/PRO, Capilano)
Brian Erichsen (Vancouver, BC, B.C. Bears/CRC, Meralomas)
Tyler Hotson (Vancouver, BC, Plymouth/PRO, UBC Old Boy Ravens)

Back Row
Aaron Carpenter (Brantford, ON, Plymouth Albion/PRO, Brantford Harlequins)
Nanyak Dala (Saskatoon, SK, Prairie Wolf Pack/CRC, Saskatoon Wild Oat)
Adam Kleeberger (White Rock,BC, Unattached, University of Victoria Vikes)
Jeremy Kyne (Wellington, NZ/Edmonton, AB, Prairie Wolf Pack/CRC, Leprechaun Tiger R.F.C.)
Chauncey O'Toole (Bell Isle, NB, The Rock/CRC, Castaway Wanderers)
Jebb Sinclair (Fredericton, NB, The Rock/CRC, Castaway Wanderers)

Backs
Scrum-halves
Ed Fairhurst (Victoria, BC, BC Bears/CRC, UBC Old Boy Ravens)
Jamie Mackenzie (Oakville, ON, Esher/PRO, Oakville Crusaders)
Sean White (Victoria, BC, BC Bears/CRC, James Bay AA)

Fly-halves
Nathan Hirayama (Richmond, BC, BC Bears/CRC, University of Victoria Vikes)
Ander Monro (Victoria, BC, Ontario Blues/CRC, Castaway Wanderers)

Centres
Ryan Smith (Calgary, AB, Prairie Wolf Pack/CRC, Calgary Irish)
Conor Trainor (Victoria, BC, BC Bears/CRC, UBC Old Boy Ravens)
Phil Mackenzie (Oakville, ON, Esher/PRO, Oakville Crusaders)
Mike Scholz (Oakville, ON, Ontario Blues/CRC, Oakville Crusaders)

Wings
DTH van der Merwe (Victoria, BC, Glasgow Warriors/PRO, James Bay AA)
Ciaran Hearn (Conception Bay, NL, The Rock/CRC, Castaway Wanderers)
Taylor Paris (Barrie, ON, Ontario Blues/CRC, Markham Irish Canadians)

Fullbacks
Matt Evans (Duncan, BC, Cowichan RFC)
James Pritchard (Parkes, Australia, Bedford/PRO)

Staff
Coaching staff
Kieran Crowley – Head coach
Geraint John – Assistant coach
Neil Barnes – Forwards coach
Mike Shelley – Scrum coach
Clive Griffiths – Defensive coach

Management
Rodger Swany – Team manager
Peter Huigenbos – Analyst
Calum Ramsay – Analyst
Trevor Stone – Team services and logistics
Tom Kennedy – Team media manager

Medical
Dr. Paul Watson – Team doctor
Matt Barr – Strength and conditioning
Carrie Smith – Head therapist
Carla Brash – Therapist
Anita Walsh – Therapist
Michele Brown – Massage therapist

 

 

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NOBS WORLD "THIS SUNDAY"

A big event is planned this Sunday in Brampton to honour rugby great Millar Young.  The Nobs executive has decided to move our normal touch game that would be held in Burlington on Sunday to the Brampton Rugby Club so that everyone care take part in the day.  There should be a lot of old faces out there to honour Millar so come on out and take part.  Game time is 1pm.  Da Thug

Thursday, July 7, 2011

FW: XLRFC - This Sunday - BIG EVENT !!

Good morning one and all, where ever you are in the Nobs World.  There is a big game this Sunday in Brampton in which one of the greats of Canadian rugby will be honored; Millar Young.  Ontario Rugby Hall of Fame member, the Reverend Freddie Miller will also be on hand for a special guest appearance.  This is to be a big day for old boys rugby so come on out and take part.  Da Thug

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: XL Rugby

Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:37 AM

Subject: XLRFC - This Sunday - BIG EVENT !!

 

OK ... you see these messages all season, and usually don't pay much mind. We know how life goes; get there when you can. It is now time, however, to make the effort...

XLs ARE HOSTING !!

This Sunday (July 10th), the XLs are hosting an "All-Comers" game at Brampton RFC. This day will include two special features...

________________________________________

TRIBUTE TO MILLAR YOUNG

As you all know, Millar Young was a monumental figure in Ontario Rugby. After 16 years playing in the CFL, Millar turned his talents to rugby, most notably with the Toronto Scottish. Later, along with his administration and development work for Rugby Canada, Millar was an active supporter of Junior Rugby. He also found time to introduce and establish rugby in St. Lucia, founding the St. Lucia Rugby Football Club. Millar was inducted into the Rugby Ontario Hall of Fame in 2002, and his passing in January of this year was mourned across the country.

Millar was one of the "Founding Fathers" for the Toronto XLs. Not being content to let age take him away from playing, he was instrumental in forming our club and was a stalwart player for many years. As a spin-off of the XLs, the Niagara Old Boys of Burlington (NOBs) also recognize Millar as a direct founder. In fact, all "Old-Boys" players in Ontario today can thank Millar for helping keep them in the game.

This Sunday, Millar's wife Virginia (Gini) will be joining us for a small tribute to Millar. We hope you will all be there to help us toast his contributions and memory.

________________________________________

A VISIT FROM REV. FREDDIE MILLER

This Sunday we will also be happy to welcome Rev. Freddie Miller for a visit. Also an inductee of the Ontario Rugby Hall of Fame, Freddie was a driving force in Ontario Rugby as a founder and/or administrator for many clubs, including the Nomads, Wanderers, Canucks, etc. ... and of course the XLs. Currently residing in Australia, and occasionally still lacing up the boots, Freddie is in Canada visiting family and friends. We are excited to see Freddie again, and hope you will all join us in saying hello.

________________________________________

Date:                Sunday, July 10th

Time:    1:00 PM Kick-Off

Place:   Brampton RFC

Directions...

  1. 401 - Exit 401 at 410 north. Take 410 north to the Derry Road exit. Turn left (west) on Derry Road. The first road is Kennedy; take Kennedy north to the Brampton fields. The fields are on the right (east) side of Kennedy, just north of the PowerAde hockey arena. NOTE: The entrance is kinda screwy ... you have to enter on the south side of the arena and follow the road around.
  2. 403/QEW from West - East to 403 cut-off (at Oakville/Mississauga), stay on 403. Highway 403 ends at 401, turns into 410. Take 410 north, then proceed as above.
  3. 401 - Exit 401 at 410 north, then proceed as above.
  4. 407 - Exit 407 at Hurontario (Highway 10). South on Hurontario to Derry Road. East on Derry Road to Kennedy Road. Kennedy Road north, and proceed as above.

There is a map on the Brampton website ... http://www.rugbybrampton.com/AboutUs.html

________________________________________

To all of our members and friends from other clubs, please pass this along and ... HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE!

The XLs

Monday, July 4, 2011

FW: [LTRugby] The 2010 Rugby Canada Financial Statement

Further comments/responses on the above subject.

 

 

  Jack Morrison

 


From: David Nelson [mailto:David.Nelson@johnstonequipment.com]
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 11:58 AM
To: gsneddon2; S & J Morrison; general@nobsrfc.com; Dave Haslam
Cc: apiggott@rogers.com
Subject: RE: [LTRugby] The 2010 Rugby Canada Financial Statement

 

Hi Gord, Jack et al,

 

I would also like to add that the majority of the funding that this “article” in BC Rugby News is directed funding: in other words if not used for, say, coaching, the monies are not free to be used elsewhere. It would be great to have all sorts of sponsorships to be able to use monies freely wherever they are needed but reality is we are a niche sport in our country. All of us involved are passionate bordering probably on fanatical for our sport.

I will give you an idea of what we as Rugby in Ontario face when it comes to garnering sponsorship. Living in Oakville, a town of 170,000 people, we have the Oakville Soccer Club which has a membership base of over 10,000. Also living in Ontario, a province of 13.2 million (estimated on July 1, 2010), we have Rugby Ontario with a membership base of under that 10,000 mark. Much harder to get visibility and funds other than from like-minded individuals as you might imagine.

 

And I would agree that much of the sentiment coming out of this website is not the best. Everyone is welcome to their opinion but there are times that site is more counterproductive than anything else.

 

From: gsneddon2 [mailto:gsneddon2@cogeco.ca]
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 3:32 PM
To: 'S & J Morrison'; general@nobsrfc.com; 'Dave Haslam'
Cc: David Nelson; apiggott@rogers.com
Subject: RE: [LTRugby] The 2010 Rugby Canada Financial Statement

 

Jack,

 

Thanks for copying me on this e mail. As a member of the board of Rugby Canada I think I can add some comments and explanations that may be helpful and also help dispel some myths.

 

First and foremost we are about winning, make no mistake about that.  The whole goal is to have the best coaches, managers, administrators in place to develop as many players who are capable of playing at the National level and Internationally. Canada competes to win, it’s that simple.

 

That is why so much effort has gone into getting the right structures and systems in place over the past five years. That is why we have the coaching staff that we do and with Trevor’s pending retirement allows us to find that Director of Rugby with the right skill set to build on that winning attitude and culture.  Take a look at the backgrounds of our current coaching staff it is impressive. Kieran Crowley, Geraint John, Neil Barnes and Clive Griffiths are currently with the senior men’s side in England.

 

I’m not sure if you have watched the Churchill Cup Games this year but of interest, this is the second year in a row that we, Canada have reached the finals. In 2010 Canada beat France A to advance to the final against England Saxons. This year Canada defeated Russia and Italy A to advance to the finals against England Saxons. That hasn’t happened by accident and is in no small part due to the coaching and opportunities created and provided to the athletes to compete overseas in a professional environment. Domestically the past two years of the Canadian Rugby Championship has helped develop and identify the domestic based players and provided a level of competition that was previously absent. To quote Rod Snow after a Rock Blues game he described the CRC as the most intense competitive domestic competition he has ever participated in.

 

For anyone to compare the RFU with Rugby Canada is well, ludicrous. That would be like comparing Stade Francais or Leicester to Crusaders. The progress made in the UK, in England in particular since the game turned professional in 1996 is outstanding. If you think back to the crowd size prior to 1996 at a Wasps Bath game as an example then think on the numbers they draw today they have come a long way. Canada doesn’t have a professional game yet (I am hopeful) and the challenge right now is to maintain the ability to compete with those countries that do.  It won’t be easy,emerging Nations such as Georgia and Japan are going to be difficult especially when you take into account that rugby in Georgia is now their national sport and has had huge amounts of investment poured into it. Likewise in Japan where company teams is the base approach.

 

As for grass roots, I agree that is fundamentally important, but that responsibility is primarily that of the Provinces and the branch unions. Ontario has done an outstanding job in that regard, and Crusaders as a club have in terms of numbers led the way. Rugby Canada’s primary responsibility is the national teams, and administration of the game across the country. In the past year service level agreements (ie who does what) have been put in place with the cooperation and input from the Provinces, Ontario in particular, those have helped further define everyone’s respective roles.

 

Jack we have a way to go, I’m not blind to that and challenges ahead but we’re on the right path, of that I am positive. The game is growing across the country most significantly in Ontario and our National teams and the systems that improve and develop them are improving overall with results where they need to be, on the field. After all that’s where it counts.

 

Canada both men’s and women’s teams remain competitive and candidly continue to punch above their weight class, given their current levels of funding. That is simply a reflection of the quality and commitment of those involved. The women are true contenders for a world title at some point in the future.

 

Some things to ponder on are; Our women were one of the few sports in Canada to achieve funding from the own the podium program. As the name implies you have to stand a chance of being in the medals to achieve that. They the women did that on merit. Additionally the last three tournaments they have won.

 

The IRB hold Rugby Canada as one of the top twelve unions in the world. Sport Canada lists Rugby Canada as one of the best managed sports in the country. Those facts are independent and contrary to what is written by the author below.

 

Jack, Rugby Canada has lots to be proud of. We are most definitely making progress.

 

This year August 6th Canada will play the USA at BMO field. This is a real opportunity to showcase the game in a professional environment at a location that couldn’t be better served by various modes of transport. It’s also a real opportunity for the Canadian Rugby public to get behind their side prior to the Rugby World Cup and put a good showing in the stands. It should be a great event and look forward to seeing everyone there. It will be successful if people come out and support their team. I can tell you now that the game will be broadcast live on two major networks.

 

Jack I have taken the opportunity to reply to all, and please feel free to share my comments with whomever you feel appropriate. As I say there is much to looks forward to.

 

Thanks again and hope to see you soon.

 

 

Gordon

 

Gordon Sneddon

Director Rugby Canada

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


From: S & J Morrison [mailto:s.j.morrison@sympatico.ca]
Sent: Saturday June 11, 2011 00:23
To: general@nobsrfc.com; 'Dave Haslam'
Subject: FW: [LTRugby] The 2010 Rugby Canada Financial Statement

 

Some very interesting and thought provoking comments on our game in Canada

 


From: barb&bob gibbons [mailto:pickledpair@shaw.ca]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 2:04 PM
To: Bob Shewchuk; Byron Tucker; 'Chuck Bonsant'; Derek Coke-Kerr; Don Whidden; Jack Morrison; Ken Burrows; 'Lawarence Myer'; Peter Twiss; Rick Rollins; Rick Thompson; Robin Tweedy; Rod Walsh; Ross Boyes; Ryan Thomas; Stan Thorseth; Stuart Cowan; Terry Dunn; Terry MacPherson; 'Terry Romaniuk'; Tim McGee; Tom Shacklady; Tony Bauer; Troy Schnelle; Vic Michalchuk; Wes Slavik; Yvon Ouellette
Subject: FW: [LTRugby] The 2010 Rugby Canada Financial Statement

 

 

 

From: Chris Suvan [mailto:csuvan@norchris.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 10:50 AM
To: ltrugby@ltrugby. ca
Subject: [LTRugby] The 2010 Rugby Canada Financial Statement

 

 

The 2010 Rugby Canada Financial Statement and New Post for General Manager Operations and Performance

 

Comments from BC Rugby News

 

[ed. comments below]
posted June 9 2011

Description: http://www.instacomment.com/13482/RC2011



2010 Rugby Canada Financials

The Rugby Canada financials for 2010 were put up on the RC website last week and we’ll look at those numbers. I’ve been a critic of the current administration of Rugby Canada, the one created by the Agents of Change about a decade ago. Their vision was to create a more professional administration (read more paid staff) and therefore raise the standard of rugby in the country. Using a top down approach we would generate more revenue, the national team performance would improve and rugby would enjoy a golden era in Canada. That, I assume, was the theory... it didn’t work.

In reality Rugby Canada is on the dole and pretending to be like the Fortune 500 executive (RFU) who lives across the street. We dress like him, act like him and drive the same car but while he’s pulling in a six figure salary we’re cashing our monthly welfare cheque. Then we scratch our head and wonder why we’re getting further in debt and none of our big dreams are coming true. It’s time to stop the charade, ditch the suit, put on some jeans, roll up the sleeves and start to do some honest work from the grassroots up. That’s the vision of Rugby Canada that I would support.

If we want to see what a real professional rugby organization looks like financially then we’ll compare the RFU financials to Rugby Canada’s and analyze where the money comes from and where it goes.

The RFU has 112 million in revenue, RC has 6.6 million. Their big four sources are Tickets 21.3, Broadcasting 24.6, Sponsorship 14.8, Hospitality 27.7. Our big four sources are iRB payments 1.7, Government payments .8, Membership payments 1.4, Rugby Canada generated 1.9 (sponsorship, national teams, domestic competitions, merchandise, other). We have no broadcast revenue because we don’t have a strong product to sell, our ticket sales are minimal because we don’t have many home test matches, we don’t have hospitality revenue because we don’t own a stadium, our sponsorship revenue is 0.4 million (and I’m guessing much of that is “in kind” services and product). RFU has profits of 25.8 million, RC has a profit of 57 thousand dollars. If you factor in money owing to the Churchill Cup, Demand Loans and Deferred Fees we apparently are running at a deficit of 1.3 million according to the balance sheet.

Let’s also take a look at where the money is spent. RFU spends 13% (11.5) on Elite rugby, 20% (17.2) on Community, 18% (15.4) on Admin and 17% (14.5) on their Stadium. RC spends 38% (2.5) on Elite, 10% (.7) on Community, 25% (1.6) on Admin and 12% (.8) on Membership (basically insurance).

Rugby is not professional in Canada, we don’t have a professional administration revenue profile so let’s stop pretending and start growing rugby from the ground up. As I've said many times, 25% admin costs are too high, we need to drastically reduce that figure and spend more on community initiatives. The volunteer community is the real strength of Canadian rugby and that needs to be appreciated, recognized and organized.

Rugby Canada Financials for 2010
RFU Financials for 2010

General Manager - Operations and Performance

Job Posting General Manager

From what I understand this job is to replace Trevor Arnold who is retiring. TA's current job description is Director of Rugby. I have issues with the job description and concerns on how this person will be selected.

Nowhere in Trevor Arnold's job description does it say he's responsible for creating winning rugby programs. His job description on the RC website states: "The Director of Rugby reports to the CEO is responsible for ensuring that Rugby Canada continues to plan and develop in accordance with strategic planning guidelines and agreed upon funding parameters. The Director of Rugby is responsible for and will provide leadership to all Rugby programs and support the on-going endeavors of Rugby Canada staff members to improve the skills and knowledge they require to perform their roles effectively. This person will plan, manage, implement and promote “best practice” and promote a positive image of the sport within and beyond the Rugby community."

So basically follow the guidelines, no matter how flawed, and promote a positive image... and people wonder why winning is secondary in the Rugby Canada culture.

The new job is only a little better, it does mention in one line: "The primary challenge of this position is to improve Canada’s international success and status." But then repeats the same line about positive image: "The successful candidate will plan, manage, implement and promote best practice resulting in a positive image within and beyond the Canadian Rugby community." Bottom line what is more important to you as a member of Canadian rugby, winning or image, substance or style? If you say image, which is what I believe the Rugby Canada directors and staff are primarily interested in, then you shouldn't complain about losing at the international level, just bask in the positive image that they're creating. If you're more interested in winning then you should be concerned as well.

The job description is full of flowery language that is sometimes contradictory and often meandering. Good luck in finding the right person using this job description as a yardstick. Here is a particularly meaningless statement: "The General Manager must possess an understanding and acceptance of as well as support for future international success for the national Rugby teams of both genders." Seriously what does that mean, do you possess an understanding of future international success, do you possess an acceptance of future international success, do you support future international success? Really you'd have to be a moron to answer no to any of those questions and still apply for the job, and we don't need any more people with a knack for the absurd.

Reading through the job description do you feel confident they'll find the right person to turn around Canada's on field performance? It's more likely to attract an academic who has very little understanding about the realities of the job. Here is my addendum to the job description:

You will be responsible and held accountable for the following measurable outcomes:
- you will ensure the Men's U20 team wins the JWRT competition and returns to the top 12 championship
- you will ensure that Canada's Senior men now ranked 15th increase by at least two ranking levels
- you will ensure Canada's men and women 7s teams qualify for the 2016 Olympics
- you will ensure Canada's women maintain a top six ranking
- you will have a four year cycle to accomplish these tasks and will be evaluated every year on your progress

Plain English, measurable outcomes, this is really what we're looking for, positive image comes second.

So who will be selecting this person, hopefully not the person leaving that position. We need people who will be held accountable for the selection. I'd like to see some people from the rugby community on the selection panel. I suspect if Graham Brown is dominant on the selection committee he'll select someone who won't be a threat to his position and is a good follower, someone who can easily be thrown under the bus if there's an outcry for accountability, not really what we need. It seems the people we've selected lately at the national level have been good followers, the good leaders, like Morgan Williams have been removed. It may make for a harmonious office environment but it doesn't do anything to improve Canadian rugby on the field.